I've read of people doing cycles w/o test. I've seen cycle protocols laid out with no test in them. Some people that are publishers of anabolic books and articles advise for a beginner to use less adrogenic gear at first and as they progress in their experience that leaves room for more adding stroger more adrogenic compounds.. Most first time users want to use the saffest least toxic and side effect free substance they can..I say most...then there are the other guys whos first cycle is 3x sust 250 pw, 5 DBol a day, and tren..or some A Bombs... Some people dont want to listen.. they may ask... butthey still do what they wanna do..will you get results from an EQ and winny cycle?? Yes... is it a good beginners cycle??? I Guess..would I do it? No Why?? Cause it has no test.. I think every cycle should have test.. even if its just 200mgs pw..that will not aromitize or cause water retention, and with that amount you shouldnt need any anti e's...
I know of 3 people who did Primo & Anavar cyccles and were happy...but if you use anything that shuts down your natural production of test you should replace it with test IMO for what its worth...