TRT, which Testosterone ester?

[cybrsage]

If you live in the US, TaiChiChuan, simply doctor shop until you find one who is not an idiot. That is the biggest benefit of our medical system...yes, our system has many flaws, but when you hear the horror stories out of the EU and even Canada, the US system sounds a lot better.

I had to fire a doctor and an endocrinologist before I found a urologist who would prescribe me home injections. My primary care physician recommended him (he uses the urologist himself and that is the best recommendation a doctor can give).

I do 150mg of test-cyp a week, split into E3.5D. I also do 500iu of HCG a week to keep the boys plump and to force my body to keep making its meager 153 test amount. The two combined put me in the lower 700s.

 

[chrisr116]

I've been beggin' and pleadin' to get back on TRT for two years. Doc says my test is fine at 250ng/dl. at 60 years. LMAO So I'm going the route I had chosen earlier. Beginning September 1st, 2015 onward, I will not go in for any urine tests nor blood tests at the VAMC or any local hospital unless it's life-threatening. I thought these docs would be OK. My PCP, the endocrinology doctor, and the urologist questioned me once about my testosterone level being slightly over 600ng/dl. at 59 years old??!!! What the hell? Going online from here on out!!!

If you run some test for a few months, get off it, and have your test levels checked, about 3 weeks after the last injection, I am pretty sure it will be well within the range your doc is going to need to see to put you on trt.

 

[cybrsage]

If you run some test for a few months, get off it, and have your test levels checked, about 3 weeks after the last injection, I am pretty sure it will be well within the range your doc is going to need to see to put you on trt.

You have to be careful with that, since your blood work could also show your system has been suppressed. Not sure how long it takes for that to return to normal.

 

[chaotichealth]

Google e hormones. If you want to get on trt and your doctor will not do it. It's pricey but they want your number above 900

 

[~Vision~]

Protocols will vary from one to the next, so will dosages..This is NOT a one size fits all lifestyle..
I know guys that take 200mgs of cyp and their levels come back in the low 600's (600-620), and this is TRT script and still have single digit E2..I seen others take 125mgs E6D and have a respectable 700+,with estro E2/E2 levels on point. You'll need to heed the advice and protocol from the endo of your choice and see what works for you,there will be adjustments,along with a slew of blood work to see where you are at,where you come from and where you are going..

The beauty of this all, if your not happy, find a new specialist, there's a shit ton of great ones all over!

 

[getbig1974]

If you live in the US, TaiChiChuan, simply doctor shop until you find one who is not an idiot. That is the biggest benefit of our medical system...yes, our system has many flaws, but when you hear the horror stories out of the EU and even Canada, the US system sounds a lot better.



I had to fire a doctor and an endocrinologist before I found a urologist who would prescribe me home injections. My primary care physician recommended him (he uses the urologist himself and that is the best recommendation a doctor can give).



I do 150mg of test-cyp a week, split into E3.5D. I also do 500iu of HCG a week to keep the boys plump and to force my body to keep making its meager 153 test amount. The two combined put me in the lower 700s.

I don't see the need for hcg why force your body to work harder for something that doesn't work just my opinion your HRT dose has replaced your levels in the blood so why make you nuts work harder ? Just up the dosage if you want more test by 25mg

 

[Amber1994]

long easter will keep longer time in ur body, so u don't need inject many times, short easter is opposite

 

[big_rich]

Look into trt clinics most doctors don't know enough about trt to get you dialed and and keep estrogen in check.

 

[Verne]

I don't see the need for hcg why force your body to work harder for something that doesn't work just my opinion your HRT dose has replaced your levels in the blood so why make you nuts work harder ? Just up the dosage if you want more test by 25mg

Your testes also produce other hormones and insulin-like factor 3. You body will miss them. Plus peas sized painful nuts isn't a good thing. HCG is cheap. 500mgs a week is not over working anything

 

[gh0st]

For true trt, stability is key. Test e or c twice a week. This has also been shown to keep estrogen lower. Any test will work, but I would stick to those medically proven. .

I would stick with test cyp. Esp if that what you like. and i would go agree with magnus. Still two twice a week injections. but test cyp is what i use for TRT! mondays and fridays.

The test deca and test undeca they say is good for TRT but honestly as far as keeping your blood levels steady...i'm not sold on the whole one injection every two weeks.
Your test levels peak 24-36 hrs after your injection...then drop from there. This is why the best time to do a blood test to see the levels of your testosterone in the bloodstream is the day sfter your test cyp injection!

 

[gh0st]

I don't see the need for hcg why force your body to work harder for something that doesn't work just my opinion your HRT dose has replaced your levels in the blood so why make you nuts work harder ? Just up the dosage if you want more test by 25mg

Sorry but i totoally disagree with this.
I would def still use HCG while doing TRT...unless you want your nuts to shut down completely.
I still take 250iu 2x per week on the same days I take my test cyp injections. I do .5 ml test cyp Monday with 250iu HCG, same thing on Thursdays! 250mg/mL of cyp per week!

They wont be working extra hard, or "harder" They wont be working . period.
No offense i just disagree with your advice here.

Respect
gh0st

 

[Nightrider]

Test e 2x a week

 

[Ragnor]

Test Cyp 20mg day M-F script injected Sub Q.So 100mg wk and prescribed 200mg but the 100mg puts me in the high 900s.

 

[gungalunga]

I recently decided to split my 180mg of test E into 3 shots per week to keep e2 down. I'll see where I'm at the next time I get bloodwork done. Also decided to add 100mg of tren ace/ week, which is basically making my trt a small cycle, but I am loving it. The test/tren combo is making me a walking, talking boner. My gf got up early this a.m. and went somewhere....I think she is hiding from me....

 

[TeknoViking]

M-W-F sub q Test C or E works great.

 

[Sandpig]

I recently decided to split my 180mg of test E into 3 shots per week to keep e2 down. I'll see where I'm at the next time I get bloodwork done. Also decided to add 100mg of tren ace/ week, which is basically making my trt a small cycle, but I am loving it. The test/tren combo is making me a walking, talking boner. My gf got up early this a.m. and went somewhere....I think she is hiding from me....

Low dose test and tren.
The ole Dr. G protocol.

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[kscowboy]

my protocol uses Test C on monday and friday. 100mg each day.

 

[Massive G]

Low dose test and tren.
The ole Dr. G protocol.

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what ever happened to Dr G?

 

[Sandpig]

what ever happened to Dr G?

No idea.
He was with Gear Depo.
They are still sponsors at PM but I don't think they even have his Q&A threads anymore.

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[kscowboy]

Yeah i remember Dr G. Was he even a DR? LOL