The preworkout thread

[greggy]

I have to agree with CG. But I workout at 5 in the morning and sometimes I need a little boost. I used to use Blackstone Labs but have recently purchased this one. Really nice.

 

[Elvia1023]

I think there all bullshit. If you have no energy your diet is off. I have never had a professional coach (EVER) recommend an energy drink, ever.
I have three Rice Crispy treats before every training session. That's all the energy anyone needs to train.

CG

Maybe I should add I 100% don't need pre workouts at all. I have lots of energy and most of the best workouts I have ever had are when I used no pre workouts. I wouldn't recommend them to people who don't use either as large amounts of stimulants are not good for health... especially if a guy is taking loads of aas etc. Taking large amounts of stimulants is definitely a bad thing and I am sure in the near future I won't use them so oftenly.

Now needing and wanting is different as I simply love them. I love the feel they bring etc. Some guys smoke pot, others get drunk, many vape now... I take pre workouts... and get drunk too

 

[Elvia1023]

I think you'll like Hyde. One of the strongest out there. To bad you didn't get in on it when it still had 1,3 Dimeth in it, instant beast mode. Like Hawk, I to have a physical job and at time is though to motivate yourself to train. With that stuff, 20min later you have no choice

Yes HYDE will be next. I am sure there is a uk company selling a pre workout with 1,3 Dimeth in even though it is banned. I will have to look into that. Do you know if the original Dorian Yates one had that in or was that after the ban? I remember taking it and it was incredible but the one I got more recently was nowhere as good (still decent though).

I never need motivation to train I just love the feeling But sure I know many guys who work long hours so pre workouts really help them out. There was a guy in my old gym who was like that and I introduced him to the The Curse by Cobra Labs. The guy worked 70+ hours per week and was made up with it. I will never forget the smile on his face when he took it before cardio and I came down about 40 mins later to see how he was feeling

 

[Concreteguy]

Have you tried just purchasing caffeine tabs? Save your money bro. But that's just my opinion.
I feel and have had explained to me buy people I truly respect in this field, that masking a tiered body that shouldn't be training with ZIP DRINKS is a really bad thing to do. Again, if your tiered and don't feel like training there is a reason. Could be sugar or your starting to get ill but what ever reason it is, sending a faults positive to your brain to train isn't going to achieve the end results your looking for.
I have seen several pro's drink 1 cup of BLK coffee before training. This is the same as taking a couple caffeine tabs. LOL Have you looked at whats in that panther piss? Hey, I'll stick to my "high doses"
But again, this is just my opinion. To each their own.

CG

 

[Elvia1023]

Yes we all have different opinions and thats cool. Lots of pro's take nothing and others use tonnes of stimulants but I don't care what pro's do. I just like taking pre workouts and others don't. I have tried caffeine pills and I love coffee. I started a coffee thread on promuscle as I am a big fan of it. I sometimes just have a nespresso before the gym. Some give me a nice flow of energy whilst something like a kazaar or dharken will get me wired. I limit my coffee intake though due to the caffeine content and the fact I use pre workouts.

I didn't use "high doses" in relation to you at all. I was merely pointing out lots of stimulants on high doses is a majorly bad thing for some (especially if there is a genetic heart issue going on). Loads of guys on the forums take high doses. The high doses can thicken your blood etc. The stimulants will make your heart beat like crazy. I know a guy who had a heart attack in his late 20's due to that. Although in his case the 'stimulant' was coke. He had thick blood (high haematocrit, haemoglobin etc etc) and took coke which made his heart beat like crazy. Then he popped a viagra at the end of the night so all in all his body went wtf. He had a heart attack and half of his body is paralysed now.

Again I am very rarely tired and I don't take these to make me want to train. If I need motivation to go the gym on an odd day I watch a Branch Warren video... i don't copy his form though

Have you tried just purchasing caffeine tabs? Save your money bro. But that's just my opinion.
I feel and have had explained to me buy people I truly respect in this field, that masking a tiered body that shouldn't be training with ZIP DRINKS is a really bad thing to do. Again, if your tiered and don't feel like training there is a reason. Could be sugar or your starting to get ill but what ever reason it is, sending a faults positive to your brain to train isn't going to achieve the end results your looking for.
I have seen several pro's drink 1 cup of BLK coffee before training. This is the same as taking a couple caffeine tabs. LOL Have you looked at whats in that panther piss? Hey, I'll stick to my "high doses"
But again, this is just my opinion. To each their own.

CG

 

[Elvia1023]

I trained chest and tri-ceps today and decided to use one of my older pre workouts. I went with the Gaspari SP250 and have probably left it a little too long as it had gone all lumpy but obviously still gtg. This one hits me hard and I only used just over 1 scoop. It says 1-2 scoops on the back so I will have to try more sometime. In the past when I done 1 1/2 scoops it was too strong as I would get the shakes post workout.

I needed the energy today... some bad news from home etc so I wasn't at my mental best. I wanted to go though so I watched a few vids on you-tube and took it then left for the gym. I had a great workout and pushed it. My strength is starting to come back. I have never been the strongest with my chest but I done 3 plates a side on barbell incline chest press (high incline too). It felt great and I got a personal trainer to spot me. He couldn't spot though as before I had fully failed he was helping it back up. I said my bar though and done some negatives with his help to get it back up. I also done some 26kg db chest flyes for high reps. I never push the weight in that movement but gonna start.

I am on a pre workout high. Just replied to about 30 pm's in 30 mins whilst listening to Celine Dion and the Bee Gees... sad but true Definitely gonna use the SP250 2moro when I train legs.

 

[Elvia1023]

I tried 1 1/2 scoops of Gaspari SP250 tonight and it was great. I just destroyed legs but I am wiped out. I can barely move

 

[Elvia1023]

I have got myself in a bad sleeping routine and slept a lot in the daytime earlier. So my plan is to stay awake all night and go the gym at 8am. I will go to bed early 2moro so will be back in a good routine and will stay in it. Gonna try Nitraflex again but a bigger serving... I am gonna need it

 

[cybrsage]

Elvira - of all the PWOs you have taken, which one would you choose as the best if you had to choose just one?

 

[rAJJIN]

Ive been adding 12.5mg Epghedrine to the new c-4
Its better then any of there old formula. Just hope my heart doesn't blow out :sport-smiley-003:

 

[Elvia1023]

Ive been adding 12.5mg Epghedrine to the new c-4
Its better then any of there old formula. Just hope my heart doesn't blow out :sport-smiley-003:

You know you were asking about HYDE. Did you see the sponsor on pro muscle? They are selling it for $15 a tub including delivery. That is ridiculous and they can't be making barely anything on each sale at that price. Just shows you how cheap they are to manufacture. I will probably just order some at regular price when I next put in a big supplement order (in the new year). That's a great deal for guys in the US though.

 

[Elvia1023]

Elvira - of all the PWOs you have taken, which one would you choose as the best if you had to choose just one?

NitroNOX Pro by GSN Nutrition. Everyone I know who has used it loved it.

 

[Elvia1023]

I stayed up all night and done a few things in the morning before leaving for the gym. It's been so cold here but it was strangely sunny today and a beautiful day. I walked over Lake Geneva and the feeling I got is why I am happy to live here. Although the 2 scoops of PRE JYM I had just taken could have added to things That's 600mg caffiene in an already tired state so I was flying.

I had a great workout and trained back and done a mixture of heavy and light. I managed to get 10 reps out on low bar rows with 5 plates each side. 2 scoops also has 100mcg huperzine a in so that definitely added to things. Although for such an amount it wasn't like it hit me super hard. Trying to give a comparison but hard to do as I would never drink so many nespressos. But the kazaar is suppose to have 120mg caffiene in. I know for a fact if I had 3 of those in one go I would probably have a breakdown in the gym and thats 360mg caffeine. 2 of them and I would be on fire so it just shows you.

One thing I did notice from the 2 scoops is the pump. It got to a stage were I couldn't lift anymore as my forearms would give in. I tried to do cable rows at the end of my back workout but the pump was too much.

 

[Elvia1023]

I used 1 1/2 scoops of Nitraflex tonight and had an amazing workout. Although I was amped up and ready to go before I had even had a sip of the nitraflex. I trained for over 2 hours and hard too. I wasn't wired from the extra 1/2 scoop but it tonnes better than 1 scoop only. I done 30kg db flyes so I was pleased with that. That was after heavy decline presses, heavy smith incline presses, weighted dips and cable crossovers.

I feel wired now though. Just had an nespresso

 

[Phoe2006]

That's what I do too. 1.5 scoop is all you need to keep going all day long. I grabbed a bunch of it before they pulled it from the market. Hopefully the new formula is as good!

I just got some that match my exact old label from an online site . Same levels of caffeine etc so idk. I know they were going after high caffeine supplements a couple months ago but worth checking out. They might've also forgot to change the label info on the site as well idk

 

[psych]

Glycerol, ephedrine, caffeine, creatine, and mix it all in pedialyte. That's my shit!
EAA during session but that cocktail is set. It's cheap to make and buy each thing in bulk. Buying preworkout is like having a high maintenance girl, I can afford you but I don't need you.

Not prepping for a meet Just coffee or what ever free sample I get to try out plus carbs.

At powerlifting meets it's another story.....

 

[Elvia1023]

Today I had one of my favourite combo's. Not had it for ages and had an amazing workout and felt great. I could have trained for 4 hours non stop if I wanted to. Plus I trained hard... I actually threw up in my mouth doing quads I also got 7 slow reps with 3 plates a side for incline barbell presses so was pleased with that. My chest is my weakest bodypart and I am building my strength back up. I trained at 5pm and it is 4am now and I still feel great

Anway I had 1 sachet of Dorian Yates NOX Pump walking into the gym. Plus my gym has a coffee machine and I took a Kazaar Nespresso pod and had that just after getting in the gym. Clean energy and good focus with a great pump. I only have 1 sachet left so going to save it. I bought a box with 30 sachets and have had it for ages.

 

[ASHOP]

I just got some APS Mesomorph in a few days back. Its has some DMAA in it. Looking forward to trying it this week.

 

[Elvia1023]

I just got some APS Mesomorph in a few days back. Its has some DMAA in it. Looking forward to trying it this week.

That's suppose to be great. I had 1 scoop of PRE GYM today and felt amazing. I am that happy to be back training though it may have just been that

 

[Elvia1023]

I have Kaged Muscle Pre-Kaged, ErgoGenix ErgoBlast and GAT PMP on the way. All in the name of research

I would have ordered HYDE but the company I used had sold out. I will get that soon though.