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eddy said:Need some advice on how much to inject for my first cycle:
I'm gonna do a 12 week deca/primo cycle: I have enough primo for 100mg every 3rd day for 12 weeks, and enough deca for 500mg a week, also for 12 weeks. Now I'm wondering if I should do only 250mg of deca each week, this beeing my first cycle? What do you experienced guys recomend? Really don't want bitchtits or anything like that!
I'm 187lbs (85kg), and a little over 6 feet tall (185cm), and reasonably fit.
Would really appreciate some advice on this one!
eddy in my opinion, i think you would be a whole lot happier with your end results if you would wait and get a sust or test e or test cyp. run one of those at 600mgs per week your deca and primo at 400 per week and you will be satisfied at the end of your cycle if you put the gym time in. at those doses it is very unlikely that you will see any unwanted side effects ( other that hair on your palms, chronic cough, full blown aids J/k) at all. i think you will see most people agree with this. slow down bro, i know you are excited but get everything together and do it right if you are going to do it!!! good luck!!!Cryptasm said:Eddy, Its up to you but a mojority of the prople here advise against deca cycle w/o test..deca is not test but will shut down your test..so you are shutting down your test, and not replacing it with anything..taking no test iis bad no matter how much deca u take..get it??? if you are anxious to get started use the damn primos for a couple weeks till you get test..using the sponsors on this board or Prof Muscle you can have it in a week. so use primo till you get some test..use test at 200 mgs pw..thats not enuff to give you any sides, and then slam the 400-500mgs deca if ya want on top of that..but listen to the advise you have here and dont rush it..or how bout this if yer that anxious..start the deca and primo..order the test today, by the time yer body shuts down test production you'll have it in yer hands and be able to use it..
eddy said:........................................................................................................
Thanks for all the advice - appreciate it! I'll do 500mg of deca a week then. The reason I asked is that some people say you need a lot less for your first cycle. But that's just people being too carefull, I guess??
I realise I really could have needed some test in my cycle, but right now I just can't afford it, and I just wanna get started right away! But why is having so little test in your system such a problem (except getting a limp dick :frown: Can it give you any short- or long-term side effects? And, will it be harder to get a good workout at the gym? I'll take nolva, hopefully that will help?
Big A said:Yes, it says that on it, but it has to be kept below 28'C, easiest way to do that is to refrigerate it.
Andriol, as soon as it is in temperature over 28'C, it will denature. You don't know how it was handled before it got to you.
healthfreak said:why dont you just do a bread and butter cycle. Its your first cycle bro just keep it simple.
test E weeks 1-12 500mg
deca weeks 1-10 400mg
weeks 1-4 d-bol 40mg
nolva throughout if your afraid of gyno
and for pct weeks 14-17 use clomid and nolva
menzies2901 said:Hey Big A,
i have the information about Andriol Testocaps (Testosterone Undecanoate).
I was wrong in saying it can be stored at 28 deg C, in fact the label reads store below 30 degs C and do not refrigerate.
the manufacture is N.V Organon, from the Netherlands and distrubited by Organon Australia.
I hope this clears thing up:smoker:
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why dont you just do a bread and butter cycle. Its your first cycle bro just keep it simple.
test E weeks 1-12 500mg
deca weeks 1-10 400mg
weeks 1-4 d-bol 40mg
nolva throughout if your afraid of gyno
and for pct weeks 14-17 use clomid and nolva