Doing CG lantus/keto protocol

[Aton]

Ill run it at 50iu a day , starting with 10 and working up

I’ve used it on a bulk but never while dieting down.


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[lilgumby]

I was planning on running it for 30 days depending on how things go

 

[lilgumby]

Finally hit under 200lbs. Was 199lbs this morning. So if I'm right next Friday I should hit my goal of 195 lbs then start my blast on Monday!

Last night's workout

Week 2 Tier #1 , Day #3, Lower Pump,

1 x MR Thigh****Leg prsss****5 sets**10 second rest between each then ALL out finisher**12plates total 5 sets of five with 10 seconds between each. Drop set 10 reps pulled two plates each time until 2 plates left

1 x Pump sissy**Squat (1½ Reps):**20***reps plus partial till fail*
Bodyweight 1-1/2 reps x 20 then 15 partials

1 x**P***Hamstring Seated Hamstring Curl (5's in the hole) 165 lbs

1 x MR****** Calves: 30 reps 375lb leg press machine
*
1x P*****biceps Curl**bar (1½ Reps): 25x + 10 partials 40lb bar
*

 

[Concreteguy]

I have zero experience with DNP. So good luck there. In a state of ketosis I don't think you need shit like that friend. But that's just my opinion...........

 

[lilgumby]

I have zero experience with DNP. So good luck there. In a state of ketosis I don't think you need shit like that friend. But that's just my opinion...........

i do keto when i run dnp , Carbs make the heat WORSE ...way worse , some people run carbs to make the weight loss better but i dont think thats ever been proven. I think its actually putting me deeper in ketosis

 

[lilgumby]

Debating on tier 2 next week or stay with this . I been recouping pretty well . i want to be full bore with i hit my cycle but i read with FT training you shouldn't blast more than 6 weeks before deloading . not really counting these two weeks since its a learning cure . Do any of you guys run it longer than 6 weeks before deload?

Week 2 Tier #1 , Day #4, Upper Body Muscle Rounds
MR is 5 sets of 5 with a 10 second break between each then a all out burnout set


1 x MR back seated pulley**rows*230 lbs 165lb burnout

1 x MR back width**wide grip pull down* 190lb 100 lbs burnout

1 x MR chest low**incline dumbells*100 lbs 80lb burnout set

1 x MR delts bent rear**lateral raises 40lb dumbells . Then 20lb burnout

1 MR Abs hanging leg raises

 

[lilgumby]

Ate bad over the weekend was up to 204.8 yesterday. Today was 202lbs should be back under 200 by Wednesday i think. Dnp has me flat as hell. Feel small as shit and out of shape. Ready to kick off this cycle for sure

Decided to stay on tier 1 for another week

Week 3 tier 1 ***day 1
*
Lower load
All performed 6 to 12 reps

1 x Thighs - front squats , *225 x8 2 min rest,
1 x Quads - close foot Smith Squat, 225*x12 2 min rest
*1 x Hamstrings – stiff leg dumbells, 120x 12 2 min rest
1 x Adductors abductor Machine 100 lb x 12 2 min rest
2 x Calves - Hack Squat Caves 225lbs 1 min rest 2


Upper pump
15 to 20 reps *, *21, rest pause ,5s in the hole
Chest/back superset
1 x flat bench 155 x 25

1 x Barbell row 185 x 20

Sh/abs superset
1 x six ways till my arms fall off 10 lbs x 20
hanging leg raises

Bis/Tris superset
1 x dumbell curls 21s 20lb
Cable pushdown 21s 80lb

 

[lilgumby]

Weight was back down under 200 this morning. 199.4lbs to be exact. Would love to see about 190 before I start my cycle. I'm really chomping at the bit to get started. I'm thinking about Friday I should be about 195 196, my original goal weight. So Monday I'm going to start my blast. Not everything with insulin, just some gear to kick it off. Slin and GH will be the following week. Then will hopefully be logging more interesting stuff lol


Workout***Week 2**tier 1**Day 2

Upper Loading:
all performed 6 -12 reps*

2 x bent row 225lb x 8 225 x 8 1.30 rest
*
1 x Chest- incline dumbells 120 lb x10 1:30 rest
*
*1 x delts**135lb x 6*standing barbell 1:30 rest*


Lower Pump:**15 to 25 reps massive pumps*

1 x thigh single leg smith squats. 135lb x20 each leg

1 x quad/ham hack squats 135lb x 20

1 x calf leg press machine calf raises 385 x 15
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[lilgumby]

This mornings weight is 198.6 almost my goal weight but Monday I'm going to start the fun stuff anyway lol

Week 2 Tier #1 , Day #3, Lower Pump,

1 x MR Thigh***Bulgarian split squats! 6 sets of 4 with 10-second break between each. Alternating legs 40lb dumbell. Last set dropped dB and did 15 partials each leg

1 x Pump leg extension (1½ Reps):**100 lb 20***reps plus partial till fail*70lb


1 x**P***(1 1/2 reps) Hamstring lying Hamstring Curl 85lbs

1 x MR******hack machine Calves: 225
*
1x P*****machine curls*(1½ Reps): 25x+ 10 partials 85lbs

 

[lilgumby]

Digging these muscle round /pump days. In and out of the gym in a half hour to 40 minutes easy

Next week I'm doing tier 2 and fuck it going all out with my cycle. Have everything in place so I'm ready to go!

Walked for 6 or 7 hours yesterday at a car show flea market. Figured I'd be holding water but was down some, weighed 197.6 this morning.


Week 2 Tier #1 , Day #4, Upper Body Muscle Rounds

Muscle rounds are 6 sets of 4 reps with 10 seconds between each mini set

1 x MR back thick 125 lb t bar

1 x MR back width**wide grip pull down 145 +10 reps

1 x MR chest incline bench 80lb

1 x MR delts machine rear lateral 135 lbs

1 MR Abs hanging leg raises


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[montego]

Digging these muscle round /pump days. In and out of the gym in a half hour to 40 minutes easy

Next week I'm doing tier 2 and fuck it going all out with my cycle. Have everything in place so I'm ready to go!

Walked for 6 or 7 hours yesterday at a car show flea market. Figured I'd be holding water but was down some, weighed 197.6 this morning.


Week 2 Tier #1 , Day #4, Upper Body Muscle Rounds

Muscle rounds are 6 sets of 4 reps with 10 seconds between each mini set

1 x MR back thick 125 lb t bar

1 x MR back width**wide grip pull down 145 +10 reps

1 x MR chest incline bench 80lb

1 x MR delts machine rear lateral 135 lbs

1 MR Abs hanging leg raises


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Are you failing on your sixth set?

 

[lilgumby]

Are you failing on your sixth set?

No I have some left in the tank. Didn't think you were supposed to go till fail

 

[montego]

No I have some left in the tank. Didn't think you were supposed to go till fail

Muscle rounds you go to complete failure.
Pumps sets as well.
Loading sets you stop one or two short of failure then your final compound move for each muscle group is to failure.

If you don't fail before your 4th rep on your last muscle round set (set six) , you continue the set until you do then up the weight.

So like Incline hammer -

270*4,4,4,4,4,2

That would be failing on the sixth set.

In comparison

240*4,4,4,4,4,8 (failing at 9)

Next rotation you will increase weight so you fail on the sixth set on, or before, the 4th rep

This is why I think guys are moving up tiers to quickly. If you put everything into these sets as intended, you're gonna be wiped out. Even tier 1,if you have one muscle Round, you gotta make that bitch brutal. That's how the training is intended. You don't leave ANYTHING on the table besides your loading sets.

One set. Everything you got.

 

[lilgumby]

Ok got ya thanks for the clarification. Setting up tier 2 now. I'll still give it a go Monday. If I don't recover I'll drop it back

My legs are fatigued from walking yesterday still. Sucks getting old .... Not really old but not used to walking that much lol

Muscle rounds you go to complete failure.
Pumps sets as well.
Loading sets you stop one or two short of failure then your final compound move for each muscle group is to failure.

If you don't fail before your 4th rep on your last muscle round set (set six) , you continue the set until you do then up the weight.

So like Incline hammer -

270*4,4,4,4,4,2

That would be failing on the sixth set.

In comparison

240*4,4,4,4,4,8 (failing at 9)

Next rotation you will increase weight so you fail on the sixth set on, or before, the 4th rep

This is why I think guys are moving up tiers to quickly. If you put everything into these sets as intended, you're gonna be wiped out. Even tier 1,if you have one muscle Round, you gotta make that bitch brutal. That's how the training is intended. You don't leave ANYTHING on the table besides your loading sets.

One set. Everything you got.

 

[lilgumby]

Yesterday was my first day using lantus. Did 10iu post breakfast. Checked my glucose level all day

4/23 Bg fasted 57

6 :00 79

8:30 62 not sure why this drop. Will see if it's the same today 4/24

10:45 74

11:30 74

2:30 72

4:15 74

9:00 74

4/24

4 am fasted... 64, checked it with my other meter and said 69. That one is newer so I'm going to stick with it

Legs were fatigued from walking the car show all day Saturday. Legs weren't as strong as usual. Then dumbass me kept doing loading sets instead of pump sets. Still a decent workout



Week 4 tier 2***day 1
*
Lower load
All performed 6 to 12 reps

2 x Thighs - squats 315 x, 6 deep (usually go just above parallel. These were way below 2 min rest
1 x Quads - leg press 10 plates each side x 10 p2 min rest
*1 x Hamstrings – 2 min rest
1 x Adductors abductor Machine 2 min rest
4 x Calves - Hack Squat Caves 1 min rest


Upper pump
15 to 20 reps *, *21, rest pause ,5s in the hole
Chest/back superset
2 x flat dumbell 120x6
2 x dumbellrow 120x6

Sh/abs superset
2 x side lateral 25x12
2 hanging leg raises

Bis/Tris superset
1 x barbell curls 21s 60lbs i think. Should have wrote it's down when I got done
1 x Cable pushdown 21s 95lb

 

[lilgumby]

Hope you guys don't get tired of mini updates but checked my glucose at 6:00 am and it was, 92. Kinda shocked it was that high with no carbs

 

[Concreteguy]

Get tired????? This is your log brother. Post it up, I'm reading every word.

 

[lilgumby]

Yeah me posting about a 92 glucose reading lol. I was just shocked it was that high on this diet..... Side note my dam fingers are sore from sticking it!

 

[montego]

Logs are great ways to keto track of things you might forget. Put it all in here bud.

 

[lilgumby]

Stopped checking my glucose level after a bit yesterday. My fingers were sore lol but here's most of the day

4 am fasted... 64, checked it with my other meter and said 69. That one is newer so I'm going to stick with it

6:00 92 dam! No carbs. Same breakfast as yesterday

8:30 84

11:30 87

Much better levels than the previous day. Both my wife's parents were diabetic so she is extremely happy that I'm testing this that often and making sure the levels are good . This morning I took my 20iu lantus I was pretty out of it and forgot to take my fasted levels but will check in about a half hour or so and see where they're at

Test suspension is a bitch 2 pin. CG help me with some tips. What I did also along with shaking the shit out of it. is I loaded the pin with suspension then a little test propionate. Probably less than a 1/4 cc, just enough to watch it come into the tube a little bit. Switched out needles then push some of the propionate through the new needle so it Lube the tube up, shook the needle a good bit and it pinned pretty decent.

I try not to jump on the scales too much but for some reason this morning I thought I would check. Yesterday I was 197 today I'm 199.4. I'll try to get some pictures this weekend I'll already be a week into it but at least it'll give me something to compare with at the end of The Run.


Last night workout was great! Loving this fortitude training for sure

Workout***Week 4 tier 2*Day 2

Upper Loading:
all performed 6 -12 reps*

3 x Smith barbell row.... 4 plates x8 , 10 and 10 reps 1.30 rest
*
2 x Chest- incline dumbells 120 lb x10 120x 8 1:30 rest
*
*2 x delts* standing barbell 135lb x 5 115 x 8 1:30 rest*


Lower Pump:**15 to 25 reps massive pumps*

2x thigh... single leg hack squats. Banded hack machine(band was taking some of the load off the lower end of the exercise) x20 each leg. then a hold halfway for as long as I could with both legs after each set. these are brutal imo

1 x quad/ham 1 1/2 reps leg press 405lb x 20

1 x calf leg press machine calf raises 385 x 30( 10 straight toes 10 with toes pointing out and 10 with toes pointing in)