A few recipes that's working so far for me.

[nuclear2@12]

Ok iv made 10ml of each and so far 3days later there still clear apart from 1.

Dbol 50mg/ml
Ba 2%
Bb 20%
Guaic 15%
Eo carrier

Oxy 75mg/ml
Ba 3%
Bb20%
Guaic 35%
Eo carrier

Tren-base 50mg/ml
Ba 3%
Bb 20%
Guaic 35%
Eo carrier

Test base 50mg/ml
Ba 2%
Bb 20%
Guaic 10%
Eo carrier


From you guys saying oxt 100mg/ml won't hold I decided to drop it to 75mg/ml then if that didn't work it would have been easier to increase the volume to make it 50mg/ml but its holding fine so far.

The only 1 with a realy minute swirl right at the bottom centre of the vial is the tren base which clears if I shake it, there is only 8ml in the tren base vial aswell.

I did use some gso so next time I think it should be ok if I use 100%eo carrier, this is fine as it is tbh a little shake and its clear again, takes a few hours for the swirl to reform but its that small its pathetic lol. I will let you's know at the weekend if there still holding fine.

 

[nuclear2@12]

Ok these are still clear 5-6days has gone past now, in 10ml vials, is it safe to say there ok yet?

 

[nuclear2@12]

Ok its been over 1 week now:

Dbol is fine,
Testbase is fine,
Oxy is fine,

Tren base swirl is gradually getting bigger but clears with a shake, I think next batch I will drop it to 30mg/ml.

Iv read you can make a tren base suspension but tren base powder is a dark rust brown colour, so a suspension is going to look like sh1t water?

I think a tren base/tren ac blend sounds better then straight tren base.

Ie

25-30mg tren base + 20-25mg tren ac 50mg/ml?

The jug with the 200ml has raw in the bottom also since its fallen out of solution, but a shake clears it.

I'm not prepared to go over 40% guaic just to hold some tren base so think I will either drop to 30mg/ml or make a tren base+tren ac blend.

Iv seen on the net that tren base goes into solution well if you replace bb with peg300, is this correct?

 

[nuclear2@12]

35% guai. Geesh

I know and it is still crashing slightly lol,

Is there any danger to high guaiacol %'s?

Is it toxic? Is there a safe limit, ie could you in 10ml guaiacal and be fine (just an example)

 

[nuclear2@12]

Also I'm thinking, say I halved the concentration dose to 25mg/ml and dropped the guaiacol to 15-20% to get 50mg tren base your still injecting the same amount of guaiacol to get the higer dose, so it will still work out the same...

 

[Ironbuilt]

Tren suspension is an orange creme color. 50mg/ml.Max takes a special solvent that I doubt u can obtain .Guialacol burns me like a mofo so 35% is plain crazy. Prob why tren and me don't hit it off. ..ib

 

[nuclear2@12]

Ah right so would u sugest I just dilute it now with eo to get it to 25mg/ml

 

[nuclear2@12]

Should this hold ok:

Tren no ester 25mg/ml
Ba 3%
Bb 20%
Guaiacol 25%
Eo carrier

And yes my tren base is a dark amber colour.

On a plus note, the pip from trne was gone after 30-45mins, was about 4out of 10 scale, just felt like a nip tbh.

 

[Ironbuilt]

Guilacol does make my nerves go dormant for a while as I lost both forearm grips to tne pin. Day later slowly returning .

 

[nuclear2@12]

Ok not good then, iv dropped the concentration down to 25mg/ml now anyway. Will let yous no how it holds, should be fine if 50mg/ml was just over boarderline.

 

[nuclear2@12]

Just had a shot (pre wo) of my trne and tne (1ml of each) and the guaiacol taste is straight there from the tren, lasts about 5-10mins.

Also trne has a bite that kicks in around 5-10mins also, feeling not pip from the tne (50mg/ml) yet, off to the gym now.

Also they go through a slin pin no problem.

 

[nuclear2@12]

Well thought i was going to be on fire at training today, but felt slugish and tired tbh, its very hot here today so could be the heat aswell. I had:

Pre-wo
25mg tren base
50mg test base
100mg liquid winstrol

And I just want to ly down and have a nap tbh. Maybe just an off day....

Bp feels abit high also at the end of sets.

 

[Ironbuilt]

When do send out free gifts ?

 

[FordFan]

35% guiacol just sounds nasty

 

[nuclear2@12]

35% guiacol just sounds nasty

Yeh I upped it to 50% then halved the concentration with more eo as a carrier, so that dropped it to 25mg/ml at 25%. I think it could possible hold with less guaiacol then that because its crystal clear atm, will try 20%next time with a 10ml sample.

And lol ib

 

[nuclear2@12]

Tren suspension is an orange creme color. 50mg/ml.Max takes a special solvent that I doubt u can obtain .Guialacol burns me like a mofo so 35% is plain crazy. Prob why tren and me don't hit it off. ..ib

Could you not use the same recipe for winstrol 50mg/ml suspension and use a blow torch to melt it in the guaiacol to melt it and filter?

Basskiller uses 2ml guaiacol per 1g raw for his win suspension.

 

[nuclear2@12]

How much poly80 would you sugest? iv seen anywere from 3-10% in recipes, say:

100ml 50mg/ml

Raw 4-4.5ml (5g)
Ba 3ml (3%)
Poly80 10ml (10%)
Guaiacol 10-20ml (10-20%)
Lidocaine 2ml (2%)
Distilled water carrier.


For tne, trne, or win all at 50mg/ml

 

[nuclear2@12]

I know they all dissolve well in peg300 also so could that be an option for suspension over guaiacol?

I don't know which is more damaging tbh guaicaol or peg300...

It has on the net that trne dissolves well in peg300, think I will have a look into peg dosing ofr injections, iv seen some recipes were it just replaces bb so 20%?


Ie:
0.5g raw+ 0.2ml ba + 2ml peg300

if it disolves then fliter then add distilled water to bring it upto 10ml.

A quick googled search shows peg300 boiling point is 250 (+-) 5-10oC


So which is the better of 2 evils:
Per10ml volume and 50mg/ml aas concentration;

2ml peg300
Or
2ml guaiacol

 

[Ironbuilt]

Slow down Ferrari . Lol.. I would think the winny / Tren b 50 suspension would work but yet to try it . I would say peg is better if health and irritability is concerned. I noticed now on day 5 forearm pin redness is gone and body adjusted to the activity on each arm . If I could only type with cramped forearms. Thumbs up but not for wimps.. Ib ..
Sample ??? You located lidocaine? Send that too.

 

[nuclear2@12]

2ml of lidocaine? Prepared how? Lidocaine is a powder.

Lidocaine's melting point is around 80-90oC so will easily melt from homebrew solvents used in win/ tne/ trne etc, and what ever the displacement is.

Iv not sourced any but I'm sure it won't be hard from china,

And I know 2% is what's used if you buy it pre mixed or ie the dentist etc use for local anaesthetic.