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what steroid would be best for my sport deca/stanozol

madmasso

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Hi all

Ive been reasearching and looking up roids as i want to do a cycle..Im a kickboxer and i want to really get some definition and be able to train harder than i do now. I currently train 5-6 nights a week and do about 7km of running every second night. I am thinking of decca or stanozol as i dont want huge weight gains as i want to stay close to my super light heavyweight division.

Can anyone here give me a hand in recommending what would be a better choice..


thanks..
 

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madmasso said:
Hi all

Ive been reasearching and looking up roids as i want to do a cycle..Im a kickboxer and i want to really get some definition and be able to train harder than i do now. I currently train 5-6 nights a week and do about 7km of running every second night. I am thinking of decca or stanozol as i dont want huge weight gains as i want to stay close to my super light heavyweight division.

Can anyone here give me a hand in recommending what would be a better choice..


thanks..
my mom says "dont speak to strangers".
Pin!! To the front please. Pin to the front.
j/k. Dont want weight gain?then stick with winny or stan(whatever.)
Keep reading.
 
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madmasso said:
Hi all

Ive been reasearching and looking up roids as i want to do a cycle..Im a kickboxer and i want to really get some definition and be able to train harder than i do now. I currently train 5-6 nights a week and do about 7km of running every second night. I am thinking of decca or stanozol as i dont want huge weight gains as i want to stay close to my super light heavyweight division.

Can anyone here give me a hand in recommending what would be a better choice..


thanks..
How much weight are you wanting to gain...?.....When u say " train " does that mean kickboxing, weightraining, or both..?
 

SandMan-WES

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If you get tested stay away from deca.. it stays in the body for 18 months some times.... winny or prop maybe suspension...
 

steve0085

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Dude, If you're a fighter, and you want to stay in your weight class then gear isn't yo thang. Tune up your diet and train more for strength. I did a few years of Muay Thai and I know it's really easy to overtrain when doing that plus weightlifting. But I guess if you're gonna do it, like sarge said do winstrol to avoid the weight gains(don't want to fuck with the heavier guys) but if you're gonna be tested use orals as i've seen that the injectable can stay with you for up to 2 months.
 

madmasso

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as with training i mean kickboxing training i dont do to much weight training ,running heaps of situps , push ups etc. I know the deca stays in system for 18 months , im not to worried about that. Reason i like the deca is due to the muscle healing properties.....How about a deca/stanizol cycle or maybe just a stanizol cycle.......Would yo think just a stanizol(winnie) cycle be better than hitting decca only or deca/stan
 

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Halo Would Serve You Good As A Fighter Lots Of Sides Though So Research It
 

steve0085

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FlorEeDuh
Also, remember that without a testosterone base, You'll have some more problems including: lack of erection, no hard-on, can't get hard so can't beat off or fuck, as well as a hard time keeping your gains. I have read that Halo is good for fighters due to the increase in aggression and not much in weight, but from what i've read it's the worst on the liver.
 

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If you want lean gains you could try eq with some proviron to help your sex life all will be good. Winny will dry out your joints and may make you sore. The good thing about winny is that you can try it and if you dont like it it will be out of your system in a few days. Small test only cycles will be ok also 300 a week. Keep reading and see what other do. I know most fighters dont do big cycles cause they dont want big gains, and be bulkey. Shit maybe just var also will give you what you want. Just some ideas
 

steve0085

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I know some fighters that take var. It increases your Creatine phosphate levels more than any other steroid, and you won't gain too much weight.
 

madmasso

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var , what exactly is var , what is var abbriated for as i want to do some research on it...Thanks fellas
 

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madmasso said:
var , what exactly is var , what is var abbriated for as i want to do some research on it...Thanks fellas

Anavar ® (oxandrolone)


Quick overview:


Active Life: 8-12 hours
Drug Class: Anabolic/Androgenic Steroid (Oral)
Average Dose: Men 20-50 mg/day......Women 5-15 mg/day
Acne: Only in higher doses
Water Retention: Rare
High Blood Pressure: Rare
Liver Toxic: Yes, c17-alfa-alkylated steroid. Due to low doses, toxicity is low to medium
Aromatization: None
DHT Conversion: Low
Decrease HPTA function: Dose depandant

Anavar was the old U.S. brand name for the oral steroid oxandrolone, first produced in 1964 by the drug manufacturer Searle. It was designed as an extremely mild anabolic, one that could even be safely used as a growth stimulant in children. One immediately thinks of the standard worry, "steroids will stunt growth". But it is actually the excess estrogen produced by most steroids that is the culprit, just as it is the reason why women stop growing sooner and have a shorter average stature than men. Oxandrolone will not aromatize, and therefore the anabolic effect of the compound can actually promote linear growth. Women usually tolerate this drug well at low doses, and at one time it was prescribed for the treatment of osteoporosis. As the opinions surrounding steroids began to change in the 1980's, prescriptions for oxandrolone began to drop. Lagging sales probably led Searle to discontinue manufacture in 1989, and it had vanished from U.S. pharmacies until recently. Oxandrolone tablets are again available inside the U.S. by BTG, bearing the new brand name Oxandrin. BTG purchased rights to the drug from Searle and it is now manufactured for the new purpose of treating HIV/AIDS related wasting syndrome.

Anavar is a mild anabolic with low androgenic activity. Its reduced androgenic activity is due to the fact that it is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Although one might think that this would make it a more androgenic steroid, it in fact creates a steroid that is less androgenic because it is already "5-alpha reduced". In other words, it lacks the capacity to interact with the 5-alpha reductase enzyme and convert to a more potent "dihydro° form. It is a simple matter of where a steroid is capable of being potentiated in the body, and with oxandrolone we do not have the same potential as testosterone, which is several times more active in androgen responsive tissues compared to muscle tissue due to its conversion to DHT. It essence oxandrolone has a balanced level of potency in both muscle and androgenic target tissues such as the scalp, skin and prostate. This is a similar situation as is noted with Primobolan and Winstrol, which are also derived from dihydrotestosterone yet not known to be very androgenic substances.

This steroid works well for the promotion of strength and duality muscle mass gains, although it's mild nature makes it less than ideal for bulking purposes. Among bodybuilders it is most commonly used during cutting phases of training when water retention is a concern. The standard dosage for men is in the range of 20-50mg per day, a level that should produce noticeable results. It can be further combined with anabolics like Primobolan and Winstrol to elicit a harder, more defined look without added water retention. Such combinations are very popular and can dramatically enhance the show physique. One can also add strong non-aromatizing androgens like Halotestin, Proviron or trenbolone. In this case the androgen really helps to harden up the muscles, while at the same time making conditions more favorable for fat reduction. Some athletes do choose to incorporate oxandrolone into bulking stacks, but usually with standard bulking drugs like testosterone or Dianabol. The usual goal in this instance is an additional gain of strength, as well as more quality look to the androgen bulk. Women who fear the masculinizing effects of many steroids would be quite comfortable using this drug, as this is very rarely seen with low doses. Here a daily dosage of 5mg should illicit considerable growth without the noticeable androgenic side effects of other drugs. Eager females may wish to addition mild anabolics like Winstrol, Primobolan or Durabolin. When combined with such anabolics, the user should notice faster, more pronounced muscle-building effects, but may also increase the likelihood of androgenic buildup.

Studies using low dosages of this compound note minimal interferences with natural testosterone production. Likewise when it is used alone in small amounts there is typically no need for ancillary drugs like Clomid/Nolvadex or HCG. This has a lot to do with the fact that it does not convert to estrogen, which we know has an extremely profound effect on endogenous hormone production. Without estrogen to trigger negative feedback, we seem to note a higher threshold before inhibition is noted. But at higher dosages of course, a suppression of natural testosterone levels will still occur with this drug as with any anabolic/androgenic steroid and therefore require post cycle therapy to restore the HPTA.

Anavar is also a 17alpha alkylated oral steroid, carrying an alteration that will put stress on the liver. It is important to point out however that dispite this alteration oxandrolone is generally very well tolerated. While liver enzyme tests will occasionally show elevated values, actual damage due to this steroid is not usually a problem. Bio-Technology General states that oxandrolone is not as extensively metabolized by the liver as other l7aa orals are; evidenced by the fact that nearly a third of the compound is still intact when excreted in the urine. This may have to do with the understood milder nature of this agent (compared to other l7aa orals) in terms of hepatotoxicity. One study comparing the effects of oxandrolone to other agents including as methyltestosterone, norethandrolone, fluoxymesterone and methAndriol clearly supports this notion. Here it was demonstrated that oxandrolone causes the lowest sulfobromophthalein (BSP; a marker of liver stress) retention among all the alkylated orals tested. 20mg of oxandrolone in fact produced 72% less BSP retention than an equal dosage of fluoxyrnesterone, which is a considerable difference being that they possess the same liver-toxic alteration. With such findings, combined with the fact that athletes rarely report trouble with this drug, most feel comfortable believing it to be much safer to use during longer cycles than most of other orals with this distinction. Although this may very well be true, the chance of liver damage still cannot be excluded, especially with hogher dosages.

At one time oxandrolone was also looked at as a possible drug for those suffering from disorders of high cholesterol or triglycerides. Early studies showed it to be capable of lowering total cholesterol and triglyceride values in certain types of hyperlipidemic patients, which initially this was thought to signify potential for this drug as a hypo-lipid (lipid lowering) agent. With further investigation we find however that while use of this drug can be linked to a lowering of total cholesterol values, it is such that a redistribution in the ratio of good (HDL) to bad (LDL) cholesterol occurs, usually moving values in an unfavorable direction. This would of course negate any positive effect that the drug might have on triglycerides or total cholesterol, and in fact make it a danger in terms of cardiac risk when taken for prolonged periods of time. Today we understand that as a group anabolic/androgenic steroids produce very unfavorable changes in lipid profiles, and are really not useful in disorders of lipid metabolism. As an oral c17 alpha alkylated steroid, oxandrolone is probably even more risky to use than an injectable esterified injectable such as a testosterone or nandrolone in this regard.
 

big o

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Here's one for you guys.....undetectabol....seriously...it's undetectable in the IOC/NCAA/MLB....
 

madmasso

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wow THANKS HEAPS for taking the time...been reading up on anavar and it does seem like a great choice as it is said to be grat for weight class athletes..just 3 quick questions..

do you take anavar in like a 12 week cycle or everyday

is it a hard steroid to come across as ive never heard of it

would i keep my gains on it , eg muscle strength/tone


thanks guys