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thunderterd said:well, for me that comes down to gen pharma vs. quality vet.
UG all the way!!!
thunderterd said:well the way i understood your question is what do we prefer? ug or legit companies product. Is that correct? I want to make sure before i turn this thread into something it's not.
thunderterd said:OK, here it is...
first cycle...qv test e with a 4 week dbol kickstart. 10 weeks total. body weight up about 15 pounds. Bench max up about 50. Awful acne on my back, emotional rollercoaster. couldn't wait to finish.
now, 9th week of cycle 2...i feel great, a little wierd first few weeks (i'm using gen pharma test e 500mg a week and deca 400 a week)
By week 5, my bench max was up 60 pounds and now at week 9, my bench max is up 90 pounds. No bloat, my body weight is where it was when i started my cycle, which is what i wanted. I look and feel so much better from this product. We'll see how i keep the gains...
Genpharma seems to be more potent and a cleaner product.
So, to answer your question, my experience with a ug lab blew away my experience with a legit lab.
wolfyEVH said:homebrew and gen pharma for me......never do anything else
tee said:I would have to say its a toss up as for gains made and depends on several factors as to what you choose.
#1, is your underground lab a good one or IP shit?
#2, With pharmaceutical grade, I know its going to be clean because it was packaged in sterile conditions
#3, homebrew is a lot cheaper than anytting UG or Pharm grade, and if I make it myself, I know I took proper precautions when I made it to hopefully avoid contaminating the product, and I know it is what its supposed to be.
#4 With legal pharm grade (a prescription), Johnny Law can't touch me.:2gunsfiri
thunderterd said:OK, here it is...
first cycle...qv test e with a 4 week dbol kickstart. 10 weeks total. body weight up about 15 pounds. Bench max up about 50. Awful acne on my back, emotional rollercoaster. couldn't wait to finish.
now, 9th week of cycle 2...i feel great, a little wierd first few weeks (i'm using gen pharma test e 500mg a week and deca 400 a week)
By week 5, my bench max was up 60 pounds and now at week 9, my bench max is up 90 pounds. No bloat, my body weight is where it was when i started my cycle, which is what i wanted. I look and feel so much better from this product. We'll see how i keep the gains...
Genpharma seems to be more potent and a cleaner product.
So, to answer your question, my experience with a ug lab blew away my experience with a legit lab.
I would have to disagree that UG provides better results than legit pharmaceautical, but in my experience they are equal. Pharaceautical grade doesn't give me better benefits than UG.imdaman1 said:I would like for everybody to vote based only on gains in size and strength.
pincrusher said:to me this is a very unfair poll. with legit pharmacy grade products, there are many factors that make them better but actual gains results would indicate otherwise.
ug labs have a tendancy to overdose their products to ensure you get at least what you paid for. legit pharmacy grade products tend to be almost exactly what is advertised on the label. if you did 2 cycles, one with ug & the other with legit pharmacy grade, and ran them at the exact same dosages, the ug will probably give you better overall gains cause you would more than likely be injecting a higher dosage than what the label states.
i have used both ug & legit pharmacy grade and i prefer the legit stuff even though my gains may have been greater with uglabs. i also just dont like the idea of here today gone tomorrow, which we see with most of the ug labs that come around. i also see to high an incidence of uglabs eventually underdosing products and ripping people off right before they decide to get out of this high risk career.
this is just my opinion, but having a poll with gains being the determining factor as to which is better, is just not a good way to judge the differences between them cause they are like night & day.
imdaman1 said:I would like for everybody to vote based only on gains in size and strength.
Blackbird said:Please explain what you mean about your body weight. It sounds like you are saying that your bench went up 90lbs but you didn't gain any weight.
thunderterd said: