The dumbest newbie question ever involving Winstol/Dbol

[FlyBy]

Yep, another fresh one here. I've done some research, and get a good idea what I would be getting into with Winstrol and Deca. Anyways, a friend is giving me a bottle of 50- 25mg wins and decas, yes both are oral.

To hit you with some history/why I'm considering this. In 2 months I'm headed to paradise where the guy to girl ratio is 3:1 and all the girls are primo etc etc. I'm 5'7 and 195, I do not know my body fat, but it surely is not all muscle. I eat a well balanced diet, and have kicked in more cardio to my routine, not so much in the strength training department, but I'm getting into the local gym.

Knowing I have these 2 resources of win/dec, how would one go about using them to cut down 25ish lbs of fat and increase muscle? that is probably wanting the world, when I could do either one or the other. I know adding a Test would be the way to go, and it's how I would have wanted it, especially since I am not scared of needles at all (formal junky turned around)

Looking for a boost, but I'm an amateur when it comes to these things, I think the Win could be useful, from what I research about the Dec it is... I'm not sure what to think between bloat, etc.

Anyone wanna hit me with some knowledge?

 

[mikeystrong]

Hey man you should head over to the introductions and give a proper full intro about yourself. As for the guy to girl ratio 3:1... sounds a little homo to me but, whatever floats ur boat man. Im just guessing but this is probably your first cycle hey? also oral deca sounds funny? Yes you NEED a test as base. Just dont do it man. I wouldnt do any of it if i were you.

 

[srd1]

Im with mikey never heard of oral deca not sure if thats even possible oral winny of course but not deca...dont think you have enough product to produce desired results and it sounds like a good diet plan would do you waaaay more good than the orals....get your diet in check and watch what happens to the fat brother.

 

[humpthebobcat]

I would just do cardio and obtain a large supply of cialis...if I were going to the same place on opposite ratio day...jk man we know what u meant...I think

 

[FlyBy]

yeahhhh 3-1 3 girsl to every 1 guy mofos, jk, but yeah, buddy said it is D-Bol 50-25mg.... anyways, forreal tho. i dunno how i feel about dbol, Stazanol/Winstrol seems promising, but i am unsure of dosage etc

 

[d2r2ddd]

oral decas?? wow!! i tink u shld research more before starting any cycles.
And also tune your DIET.

 

[Thor]

Dude !

yeahhhh 3-1 3 girsl to every 1 guy mofos, jk, but yeah, buddy said it is D-Bol 50-25mg.... anyways, forreal tho. i dunno how i feel about dbol, Stazanol/Winstrol seems promising, but i am unsure of dosage etc

before you said Deca, now your saying dbol, so i think you meant Dbol since there isnt oral Deca,,anyway man do weights, THEN cardio EOD and I would take just the winny with some test, I would do 500 test a week and 50 winny a day. You should get some good results from that provided your diet is strict.
Also Where the hell is this Paradise ?!

 

[Phoe2006]

You need to do some serious research before just starting with bro knowledge that someone gave u. I suggest reading this before starting anything. Also go to the introduction section and take the time to make a proper introduction age weight goals height years training etc. You'll probably get more responses if you make a proper intro. There's an entire section for that.
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[dorian777]

If I were you I would put in 2-5 years of good hard training with the weights before I'd touch any anabolics. You said that you have done very little strength training, just cardio right? Do you think taking some pills is going to be all it takes to get the job done? Workout 3-4 days per week, do your squats, deadlifts, benches, bb-rows, etc. all the tough stuff. I trained natural for 5 years before I did anything. I gained over 50 lean pounds in that span. Now I have a base of power that I will never lose. That's how you do it.

 

[The Grim Repper]

Gear or not, diet is crucial. Read here a LOT, don't jump into anything.
Hell, why take gear, eat lousy, train lousy get nothing out of it except shut down and maybe can't get aroused. Not a good plan. Train on the basic exercises, full body 3 times a week, not real heavy, just get a pump for a month, do cardio and no starches except veggies after 5 pm. That's a basic, but effective strategy if you're thinking short term with no real experience with weights and diet. So anyway, statistically speaking, with a girl/guy ratio like that, you'd get lucky doing nothing but showing up, so just get more active, no junk food stay away from anabolics for now (no dick problems) and have fun.
Did I mention READ everything here you can?
Good luck.
Grim

 

[Slate23]

Research, research, and then more research. Never do a oral only cycle and only do test C or E for your first cycle. There are a ton of articles that have great rookie information on this very forum.

 

[Experiment4]

-IMO oral only cycles = unhealthy waste of time/money; it won't take you much research to find out why
-Not sure if dbol would be a good choice for this type of situation because it is notorious for packing on water weight, dbol is more geared for mass gain not when you are trying to get definition; winny would be a better choice but with some test
- if you really want to look a bit better train hard, do cardio, and taper down your carbs and fats; diet effects wight loss more so that AAS imo, just my 2 cents

 

[hawkeyes56]

5'7 195 want to do an oral only cycle to cut 25lbs of fat in 2 months, doing more cardio and just started going to the gym? At least that is what I got out of what you wrote.
A. Seriously?
B. Do some research
C. Planning on any liver support?
D. Planning on drinking while in paradise and prior? See C
E. Do some research, seriously
F. Don't be lazy, go to the gym, lift some weights, you are so far from ready for any kind of AAS that it isn't even funny.

 

[boyd1on]

1st they are Not fat burners none are except tren I suppose 2nd you do Not need test base. 3rd u can eat up until u sleep. 3 myths I just dispelled Idk why they are still even Live. Go get some caffeine pills brink aid at Walmart cut out processed food and grains n dairy eat fresh whole real foods lift 4 a week with 4 or 5 cardio sessions up ur whole proteins and era's and drink only water and ur golden but ur young u wont listen and ur gonna juice anyway. I have 4 certifications but what do I know?

 

[boyd1on]

Bronkaid and efa's damn auto correct.

 

[turbobusa]

Deca is an injectable. Closest thing to oral deca was old Maxibolin.
That was so long ago you'd have to be sportin a white pube or two to remember. Ask your buddy what the "decas" really are.
That ratio you find attractive is way more slanted in the D.O.C.
That would be shangri lah for you eh? J/K think you ment
1-3 not 3-1?



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Yep, another fresh one here. I've done some research, and get a good idea what I would be getting into with Winstrol and Deca. Anyways, a friend is giving me a bottle of 50- 25mg wins and decas, yes both are oral.

To hit you with some history/why I'm considering this. In 2 months I'm headed to paradise where the guy to girl ratio is 3:1 and all the girls are primo etc etc. I'm 5'7 and 195, I do not know my body fat, but it surely is not all muscle. I eat a well balanced diet, and have kicked in more cardio to my routine, not so much in the strength training department, but I'm getting into the local gym.

Knowing I have these 2 resources of win/dec, how would one go about using them to cut down 25ish lbs of fat and increase muscle? that is probably wanting the world, when I could do either one or the other. I know adding a Test would be the way to go, and it's how I would have wanted it, especially since I am not scared of needles at all (formal junky turned around)

Looking for a boost, but I'm an amateur when it comes to these things, I think the Win could be useful, from what I research about the Dec it is... I'm not sure what to think between bloat, etc.

Anyone wanna hit me with some knowledge?

 

[QS]

Anyone wanna hit me with some knowledge?

I wanna hit you, but not with knowledge.

You have a lot to learn before you ever touch any AAS.

But dont listen to us, take that shit and shut yourself down, then come back crying because your dick dont work.

lift some damn weights, increase your cardio and stop eating garbage. Done.

if you are a lazy fuck when it comes to leaning out, you should be awesome in bed. Those lucky lucky girls....

 

[Slate23]

No need for violent talk here. Just give some advice to the brother. The great thing about anasci is that it's a chill place and everyone respects each other. Being a dick to a new person is only going to make him quit the board and he will probably do some dumb cycle without the right knowledge.