- Sep 17, 2003
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I read this in MD ,and thought some of you would enjoy the read ..It's not word for word but its as close as i could get...
I know we have heard this for years but but it seems
many users "even the old timers" Find a hard time
understanding the concept of them being the
same.....
The only difference in PROP, ENATHATE AND
CYPIONATE is the ester attached to each one ....the
ester makes the steroid disolve poorly in water but
well in OIL..This gives the steroid fat like
properties making So after its injected its low
affinity to disolve in water will make it take longer
to be absorbed in the bloodstream....
The injected roid
can sit dorment for days even weeks before the body is
fully able to utilize it...a loose rule of thumb is
the larger the ester is the larger percent of fatty
acid will be in your compound.....and the more fat
like the compound will be...
ACETATE for example is a
short ester of only two carbon atoms and extends
steroid release for only couple of days ...acatate
componds need to be injected sevaral times a week in
order to keep blood levels steady ...DECANOATE on the
other hand is a long chain ester with eleven carbons
and is capable of delivering its steroid to the blood
over a peroind of three weeks or
more.....phenylpropionate is an exception to the
rule,it contains nine carbon atoms but not the classic
straight chain you see with most esters its structure
gives it a moderate level of oil-soluability and
extends the steroid life for only a couple days longer
than acetate.......
Each ester gives you a different
option .....for example you can inject 100mgs of prop
and you will get most of that hormone into your body
within a few days by the time youve had your third
shot maybe the middle of your second week you probably
already have 200mgs of active testosterone in your
body ...you are likely to notice the anabolic affects
of a drug like this pretty quick.......If you were to
take the same 200mg in the form of DECANOATE you'd
still be waiting for it to kick in making it take an
extra week or two for your cycle to kick in .....But
after a few shots the difference between the release
intervals becomes irrelevant ,,,You will ultimately be
getting the same amount of testosterone into your body
with either drug.....
IT IS VITALLY important to
understand that once the esterfied steroid is released
into the bloodstream ,enzymes will remove the ester to
yield the active "free" steroid again...the compond is
totally inactive until this happens ,the presence of
the ester prevents androgen receptor binding ....your
muscle cells will only see free active testosterone
not an esterfied compond like propionate...
The
existence of so many different steroid esters has
spawned quite a bit of misinformation about these
componds among bodybuilders,who tend not to understand
that the ester only controls the release not the
ACTIVITY...
some incorrectly believe each form of test
has its own unique binding properties we are
constantly hearing things like take test prop during
your cutting cycle it will produce less water
retention then enathate or cypionate "or" sustanon is
better because it hits four different steroid
receptors ,not one ...when you understand mechanism in
which esters work you immeditaly see the flaw in this
line of thinking .....
How can propionate possibly
cause less estrogen conversion if it yields the same
free steroid than enathate??"
the free testosteron
circulating in the blood doesn't know or care how it
got there and behaves the same way testosterone always
does" ..this info comes from our guru Llewellyn which i
tend to concur with most of his views.....
ACATATE HAS
2 CARBONS freguency of inj 2 to 3 days ,,PROP 3
carbons freguency of inj 3 days .......ENATHATE 7
CARBONS Freguency of inj 1 week...cypionate 8 carbons
freguency of inj 1 week,,,DECANOATE 10 CARBONS
FREGUENCY OF INJ 10 TO 12 DAYS .....SORRY THIS WAS SO
LONG BUT I FIND IT GOOD INFO TO KNOW ...TAKE CARE ... INTIMID8OR3
Overlook all the grammatical errors...lol
I know we have heard this for years but but it seems
many users "even the old timers" Find a hard time
understanding the concept of them being the
same.....
The only difference in PROP, ENATHATE AND
CYPIONATE is the ester attached to each one ....the
ester makes the steroid disolve poorly in water but
well in OIL..This gives the steroid fat like
properties making So after its injected its low
affinity to disolve in water will make it take longer
to be absorbed in the bloodstream....
The injected roid
can sit dorment for days even weeks before the body is
fully able to utilize it...a loose rule of thumb is
the larger the ester is the larger percent of fatty
acid will be in your compound.....and the more fat
like the compound will be...
ACETATE for example is a
short ester of only two carbon atoms and extends
steroid release for only couple of days ...acatate
componds need to be injected sevaral times a week in
order to keep blood levels steady ...DECANOATE on the
other hand is a long chain ester with eleven carbons
and is capable of delivering its steroid to the blood
over a peroind of three weeks or
more.....phenylpropionate is an exception to the
rule,it contains nine carbon atoms but not the classic
straight chain you see with most esters its structure
gives it a moderate level of oil-soluability and
extends the steroid life for only a couple days longer
than acetate.......
Each ester gives you a different
option .....for example you can inject 100mgs of prop
and you will get most of that hormone into your body
within a few days by the time youve had your third
shot maybe the middle of your second week you probably
already have 200mgs of active testosterone in your
body ...you are likely to notice the anabolic affects
of a drug like this pretty quick.......If you were to
take the same 200mg in the form of DECANOATE you'd
still be waiting for it to kick in making it take an
extra week or two for your cycle to kick in .....But
after a few shots the difference between the release
intervals becomes irrelevant ,,,You will ultimately be
getting the same amount of testosterone into your body
with either drug.....
IT IS VITALLY important to
understand that once the esterfied steroid is released
into the bloodstream ,enzymes will remove the ester to
yield the active "free" steroid again...the compond is
totally inactive until this happens ,the presence of
the ester prevents androgen receptor binding ....your
muscle cells will only see free active testosterone
not an esterfied compond like propionate...
The
existence of so many different steroid esters has
spawned quite a bit of misinformation about these
componds among bodybuilders,who tend not to understand
that the ester only controls the release not the
ACTIVITY...
some incorrectly believe each form of test
has its own unique binding properties we are
constantly hearing things like take test prop during
your cutting cycle it will produce less water
retention then enathate or cypionate "or" sustanon is
better because it hits four different steroid
receptors ,not one ...when you understand mechanism in
which esters work you immeditaly see the flaw in this
line of thinking .....
How can propionate possibly
cause less estrogen conversion if it yields the same
free steroid than enathate??"
the free testosteron
circulating in the blood doesn't know or care how it
got there and behaves the same way testosterone always
does" ..this info comes from our guru Llewellyn which i
tend to concur with most of his views.....
ACATATE HAS
2 CARBONS freguency of inj 2 to 3 days ,,PROP 3
carbons freguency of inj 3 days .......ENATHATE 7
CARBONS Freguency of inj 1 week...cypionate 8 carbons
freguency of inj 1 week,,,DECANOATE 10 CARBONS
FREGUENCY OF INJ 10 TO 12 DAYS .....SORRY THIS WAS SO
LONG BUT I FIND IT GOOD INFO TO KNOW ...TAKE CARE ... INTIMID8OR3
Overlook all the grammatical errors...lol