here is a copy of a post i made in another thread. i wanted everyone to read it so i placed a copy here in the anabolic forum since i didnt think people would see it in the other section. hopefully this will help clear up why i claim that it is not needed to inject sust eod for it to be effective 
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the makeup of sustanon:
test prop=30mg
test phenylprop=60mg
test isocaproate=60mg
test decanoate=100mg
sustanon was originally produced as a way for someone on HRT to get 1 injection per month and have a slow steady release of testosterone into their system. this is why there are multiple estered versions of testosterone in sustanon.
for a bodybuilder, this is obviously not enough so we need to take much more, the question then is how much? since
no matter what ester is attached, the base product is still testosterone, you are in essence just taking test so you need to find the most effective dosage for your exclusive situation. if you want to effectively make use of all the esters at the very start of a cycle, then you would need to take sust at high enough dosage to make use of the prop @ phenylprop portion immediately. since about the lowest effective dosage to take either prop or phenylprop is 50mg ed or 100mg eod then you would need to take sust at a minimum of eod to be getting close to that 100mg of prop/phenylprop product into your body.
if you do not desire to make immediate use of the short esters in sust, anotherwards you have the patience to wait till the long estered portion starts to kick in, then all you need to do is determine what the total testosterone dosage is that will fit into your current needs based on cycle experience, size, gym experience, etc. since we can all pretty much agree that it is generally a good idea to start out a first cycle somewhere between 400-500mg per week, then 2amps of sustanon would be sufficient.
will you be loosing effectiveness of the short esters during the first few weeks? yes but long term your potential gains will be no different than if you take a single estered product for the same duration.
will you see a slightly higher peak/valley change in bloodlevels? yes but not enough to cause any extra significant side effects.
the only way to accurately keep bloodlevels even throught a cycle would be to do a first day frontload of a single long estered test product then using the roid calculator, determine how much steroid is released into your body daily and then inject that amount each day of the cycle till the end. anotherwards, if you injected say 1000mg of test on day 1 of your cycle, then starting on day 2 you would need to inject somewhewre in the neighborhood of 75-80mg daily till you are ready to end the cycle. this is due to the fact that this is the approximate amount of test that would be released from the depot that you created with the injection.
hope this helps to clear up the issue of how much sustanon do i inject? LOL
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the makeup of sustanon:
test prop=30mg
test phenylprop=60mg
test isocaproate=60mg
test decanoate=100mg
sustanon was originally produced as a way for someone on HRT to get 1 injection per month and have a slow steady release of testosterone into their system. this is why there are multiple estered versions of testosterone in sustanon.
for a bodybuilder, this is obviously not enough so we need to take much more, the question then is how much? since
no matter what ester is attached, the base product is still testosterone, you are in essence just taking test so you need to find the most effective dosage for your exclusive situation. if you want to effectively make use of all the esters at the very start of a cycle, then you would need to take sust at high enough dosage to make use of the prop @ phenylprop portion immediately. since about the lowest effective dosage to take either prop or phenylprop is 50mg ed or 100mg eod then you would need to take sust at a minimum of eod to be getting close to that 100mg of prop/phenylprop product into your body.
if you do not desire to make immediate use of the short esters in sust, anotherwards you have the patience to wait till the long estered portion starts to kick in, then all you need to do is determine what the total testosterone dosage is that will fit into your current needs based on cycle experience, size, gym experience, etc. since we can all pretty much agree that it is generally a good idea to start out a first cycle somewhere between 400-500mg per week, then 2amps of sustanon would be sufficient.
will you be loosing effectiveness of the short esters during the first few weeks? yes but long term your potential gains will be no different than if you take a single estered product for the same duration.
will you see a slightly higher peak/valley change in bloodlevels? yes but not enough to cause any extra significant side effects.
the only way to accurately keep bloodlevels even throught a cycle would be to do a first day frontload of a single long estered test product then using the roid calculator, determine how much steroid is released into your body daily and then inject that amount each day of the cycle till the end. anotherwards, if you injected say 1000mg of test on day 1 of your cycle, then starting on day 2 you would need to inject somewhewre in the neighborhood of 75-80mg daily till you are ready to end the cycle. this is due to the fact that this is the approximate amount of test that would be released from the depot that you created with the injection.
hope this helps to clear up the issue of how much sustanon do i inject? LOL
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