New to the site... What do you think?

[Quez15]

So I'm a long one lurker and first time poster... Excited and motivated to start my first cycle. I'm going to pick up a 10ml bottle of mast e and test e. For my fist cycle I was told to start 0.5ml(100mg) of the mast twice a week (mon/thurs)for 2 weeks then start the test e at 1ml(250mg) twice a week with the mast e to equal a 1.5ml poke twice a week.

I am 27, 5'5 and about 160lbs. My goal is to loose some abdominal fat and shred fat everywhere else and gain a moderate mass and get ripped. I played college bball and work out everyday, did the whole diet and exercise with supplements and feel I hit a plateau. I feel I'm ready to really see some changes.

Besides the mast e and test e, I plan on taking my regular multi vitamins and supplements. I took oxeyelite pro for awhile and liked that, can I take that along with these two? Any other suggestions would help? I'm thinking of taking a lower dose of the test in the beginning and then go from there.... What do you guys think?

Once again I'm new, so sorry for the newbie-mess of this.

 

[ProFIT]

My question would be why add the MAST on your first run? You are going to burn the fat through your diet, training and cardio. The Test will add the bulk if everything else is in line. I wouldn't really see a need in running the Mast this time?

I would just run the Test at 250-500mg/wk, leave the Mast for a later cycle once you have understood how your body reacts to the drugs. You will need more then just a single vial of each regardless if you want to see some noticable differences. You are only looking at a 5wk cycle if you are pinning twice a week. It will take the Test at least 4wks to get into your system fully and for you to start really seeing things from it.

 

[odin]

Yes I would leave out the Masteron and go with the Test only. IMO it would be waste going with 1ml a week of Masteron anyways. Should just save it for your second or third cycle and get some more to run with it.

 

[kaju]

Too many people have the mistaken idea AAS is going to make them look shredded. Not true. It is diet and diet alone that will do it for you. Post your stats
years training
body fat index
goals
You gave your age and weight but is all posts give your age and weight and heigth.
Seeing this is your first cycle also give your cycle history. Afer posting that we will be happy to help you.
A first cycle should always be test only cycle. Dont worry You will love it and it will do you great. You learn why test is the greatest of all AAS.:love1:

 

[Quez15]

Well, I was told that since I am literally a virgin with steroids that I should start with small and slow. Also my 10ml bottle is 200mg/ml not 100/ml so I would be taking 200mg a week of the mast. My source told me that I should start off with the mast first so that I can loose some 'water weight' and shred along with my diet and exercise then after two weeks of that start taking the Test e with it so begin putting on more muscle and mass. I am a "smaller" guy like I mentioned, 5'5 160lbs. BUT like I mentioned I know you all are experienced as well and I am just doing some due diligence in seeing what you all think and maybe give me more insight after my resources and researching. The only thing I am thinking of is maybe starting the Test e after one week instead of the two weeks.

@kaju I'm 27 5'5 160lbs, never taken a cycle, Played College Bball and work out almost every day (meaning I at the minimum run 1-2 miles each day), I don't know my body fat index, and my goal is to really get fit, I want to loose some weight/fat around my abs (yes I want a six pack which is h, gain a decent amount of mass and really get defined. I am totally aware that my diet alone will do that and help but like I mentioned before i've done the whole diet and exercise over the past 3 years and initially lost about 15-20 pounds and can't seem to get where I want to be and really feel I hit a plateau. Thanks for all the advice and help... =)

 

[MaineGuy]

Well, I was told that since I am literally a virgin with steroids that I should start with small and slow. Also my 10ml bottle is 200mg/ml not 100/ml so I would be taking 200mg a week of the mast. My source told me that I should start off with the mast first so that I can loose some 'water weight' and shred along with my diet and exercise then after two weeks of that start taking the Test e with it so begin putting on more muscle and mass. I am a "smaller" guy like I mentioned, 5'5 160lbs. BUT like I mentioned I know you all are experienced as well and I am just doing some due diligence in seeing what you all think and maybe give me more insight after my resources and researching. The only thing I am thinking of is maybe starting the Test e after one week instead of the two weeks.

@kaju I'm 27 5'5 160lbs, never taken a cycle, Played College Bball and work out almost every day (meaning I at the minimum run 1-2 miles each day), I don't know my body fat index, and my goal is to really get fit, I want to loose some weight/fat around my abs (yes I want a six pack which is h, gain a decent amount of mass and really get defined. I am totally aware that my diet alone will do that and help but like I mentioned before i've done the whole diet and exercise over the past 3 years and initially lost about 15-20 pounds and can't seem to get where I want to be and really feel I hit a plateau. Thanks for all the advice and help... =)

You still need more than 1 vial of Test. 250mgs/ml equals 2500mgs total. 500mgs/week would only last 5 weeks. This is way too short of a test cycle.

 

[vpiedu]

BUT like I mentioned I know you all are experienced as well and I am just doing some due diligence in seeing what you all think and maybe give me more insight after my resources and researching. The only thing I am thinking of is maybe starting the Test e after one week instead of the two weeks.

why are you insisting on running Mast? 1 bottle of mast is a waste of time bro. like you have heard 3 times already Test only first time. 400/wk for 8 to 12 weeks. do not change your dose throughout keep it the same all the way through. get an AI and plan a proper PCT. you will make great gains. you wanna loose the rest of the fat on your midsection look up "Iceage" keep your diet clean and keep doing cardio. no compound is going to do these things for you bro, you gotta put in the work. not trying to be an asshole but you got the same answer from 3 people and you are trying to justify doing something that makes NO sense at all. BTW stop taking any advice from your source on taking gear, they dont have a clue what they are talking about. stay here and learn about what you are considering doing be smart about it and dont just do it cause you got it. all here are glad to help you out including myself but if you ask a question and ignore the Good advice you get three times in a row people will quickly loose interest in responding to you. i hope you stay and learn and do the right thing bro.

VP

 

[Quez15]

You still need more than 1 vial of Test. 250mgs/ml equals 2500mgs total. 500mgs/week would only last 5 weeks. This is way too short of a test cycle.

I'll actually have 2 vials of the mast and 3 of Test e by the time my cycle is up, I as of right now to start have one of each. I should have clarified that in the beginning.

 

[Quez15]

why are you insisting on running Mast? 1 bottle of mast is a waste of time bro. like you have heard 3 times already Test only first time. 400/wk for 8 to 12 weeks. do not change your dose throughout keep it the same all the way through. get an AI and plan a proper PCT. you will make great gains. you wanna loose the rest of the fat on your midsection look up "Iceage" keep your diet clean and keep doing cardio. no compound is going to do these things for you bro, you gotta put in the work. not trying to be an asshole but you got the same answer from 3 people and you are trying to justify doing something that makes NO sense at all. BTW stop taking any advice from your source on taking gear, they dont have a clue what they are talking about. stay here and learn about what you are considering doing be smart about it and dont just do it cause you got it. all here are glad to help you out including myself but if you ask a question and ignore the Good advice you get three times in a row people will quickly loose interest in responding to you. i hope you stay and learn and do the right thing bro.

VP

Well, to be honest here... In doing my due diligence... I will NOT be taking mast by itself for two week... and not listen to what my source has to say about how and when to take it... But like i just mentioned in my last reply, I will have 2 vials of mast 200mg/ml and 3 of Test e 100mg/ml. I will definitely continue my diet and workout plan that I have set up, put in work for sure like I have planned. So with this progress I have made so far... Do you guys still completely rule out the mast or incorporate it with the test e now that I have made the decision to not take mast by itself. 100mg/mast and 250mg/test e twice a week, starting tomorrow (monday) and then again thursday. As I am writing this I realize that maybe I should totally cut out the mast and just use Test e for my first cycle as mentioned. I did my research but can you put it into easier terms of what and why the mast e would help with the test e? Thanks again and i'm on this site to learn more so no need to apologize because i'm taking this serious and appreciate the honesty...

 

[Quez15]

My question would be why add the MAST on your first run? You are going to burn the fat through your diet, training and cardio. The Test will add the bulk if everything else is in line. I wouldn't really see a need in running the Mast this time?

I would just run the Test at 250-500mg/wk, leave the Mast for a later cycle once you have understood how your body reacts to the drugs. You will need more then just a single vial of each regardless if you want to see some noticable differences. You are only looking at a 5wk cycle if you are pinning twice a week. It will take the Test at least 4wks to get into your system fully and for you to start really seeing things from it.

what do you think now, as you are the "vet" on here... once again, greatly appreciated for everyone's help and advice...

 

[vpiedu]

first cycle should be test only. im not attacking you bro but you are getting ready to start a cycle and you have made no mention of an AI or your PCT. you have been researching you should have this down. you should know never start a cycle without everything you need from beginning to end. look QZ, im honestly not being a dick here but its obvious you have only done half of your homework or you are just forgetting to mention everything else. im glad to help but you have to pump the brakes and stop being soooo anxious to start because you are not ready. where is your AI? what is an AI? what is your PCT plan? all simple but important things here. just do the research and present a plan here and everyone will help you tweak it. its a win win deal here bro. you have to understand i have been on these boards for years and years and have seen this same scenario a thousand times. im no newb to gear or training. i have well over 20 years experience training and almost that many years experimenting with gear. in the information age you have the luxury of doing things right the first time and that is priceless. hit us back with some plans bro, id love to see you make the best of this first cycle and learn a thing or two while you are at it.

VP

43YO
6' Tall
260lbs
20+ years training

 

[striffe]

I agree with everything everyone is telling you. Test only for first cycle. In addition, make sure you have all the gear you need for your cycle before you start. What if something happens to your connect while in the middle of your cycle? Or what if an emergency comes up in your life and you have to spend your money to fix your car and you cant get another vial?
The only other thing I would add is make sure you have your PCT meds before you start as well? You should have an AI to go with your cycle too. Did your source explain this, and does he have what you need?
You have to be careful what your "local source" tells you. He may only have test and mast in stock. So ofcourse he is going to tell you thats whats best for you.
Good luck. There's a lot of knowledge here. Take it all in brother.