If this is your first cycle use a long ester test cycle first.Tren is powerful and effects everyone different.Some go 50mgs eod,then to 75mgs eod,then you try everyday shots.You cant take out what you put in.Have respect for gods blood. Some users get the fina cough,night sweats are common and indegestion is also.Best steroid on the planet as far as I'm concerned.Winny will make your joints hurt after awhile. What are yours goals ,stats and the most important thing is,,,, diet/food.Make the beast feed the beast