should nolvadex be taken while on the cycle or should someone wait till, the gyno signs show? thanks
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fleabag711 said:Well your partly right! Deca/Dbol historically is a well known bulking cycle. Test can be added, but it's not a must, besides my sex drive is still fine. I might also add that everyone reacts differently to Deca as well, and all it does to me is prolong my sex, because I'm not apt to get off as easily. I do agree with you that this cycle would have been good with test, but that doesn't mean I didnt do my research. Some people like me do whats available, and right now test isn't available.
Actually, that is a quote from a book. I can't remember now who said it, but the line is, "If you can't grow on Test, Deca and Dbol, then you won't grow on anything." So, technically he is fully right.fleabag711 said:Well your partly right! Deca/Dbol historically is a well known bulking cycle.
fleabag711 said:Test can be added, but it's not a must.
fleabag711 said:should nolvadex be taken while on the cycle or should someone wait till, the gyno signs show? thanks
I was referring to the fact that gyno from dbol will be a result of estrogen and gyno from deca or tren would be from excess progesterone and they require different anti-e's to fight. How do you know if yours is estrogen or progesterone related?fleabag711 said:Actually it was Dan Duchaine and the quote was. If you can't grow on deca and dianabol, you wont grow on anything.
Now to answer your question. moderate Deca use actually lowers estrogen levels as a consequence of reducing natural testosterone levels and thus allowing the aromatase enzyme less substrate to work with, however Deca can cause gyno in some individuals, but I'm not one of those individuals ( I should know)
And as far as taking Nolvadex or clomid, they do the same job, except clomid has a greater effect on LH.
Some people would not until gyno symptoms show, just to find out IF they are prone to gyno.fleabag711 said:should nolvadex be taken while on the cycle or should someone wait till, the gyno signs show? thanks
It never pays to be easily offended, so I choose not to.fleabag711 said:no offense dragon. I just should have never mentioned not using test.
fleabag711 said:Got some test suspension now, but I have to take it easy for a few days anyway. had a wisdom tooth taken out today.
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